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Session 6: Phil Johnson
Friday, Mar 6, 2009

(By Nathan Busenitz)

* NOTE: These notes are very abbreviated due to the amount of content Phil covered in his session. Audio of the session is available here.

Phil begins by thanking the full-time pastors for what it is they do week-in and week-out.

This morning, we will look at two verses in Titus 2:7–8. Titus was a young pastor who was extremely precious to Paul. And Paul writes to Titus with the instructions found in vv. 7–8.

Phil chose this text because he is concerned about the tendency among some pastors to use vulgar topics, filthy jokes, and the like in ministry today under the guise of cultural contextualization. There are those who claim that this kind of speech is essential in order to be relevant to reach the culture. But the apostle Paul said otherwise.

The New York Times Magazine recently did a major article on Mark Driscoll, and this was a major issue that was brought up by the article.

What language is appropriate in the pulpit? A decade or so ago, this would not have even been a question in evangelicalism. The number of young men who are enthralled with filthiness and silly talk in the pulpit is astounding; and a number of evangelical leaders are failing to take a public stand against it.

Phil notes that he faces a practical dilemma here—on the one hand, he wants to give examples to show that he is not exaggerating, and yet on the other hand he does not want to drag such smut into a worship service. In a sanitized way, he mentions XXX Church and several other examples.

To claim that it is necessary to use such sensuality to draw people to Christ in our culture is a lie. Yet, that is the very line of reasoning that is being employed. This approach to relevance has swept the evangelical movement by storm in just the last few years. Ed Young and others are examples of the trend to talk about sex from the pulpit.

To a very large degree, the entire use of the word “contextualization” has been commandeered by those who want an excuse for filling their minds, and the minds of their people, with smut. If one’s approach to contextualization is to make himself feel comfortable in a secular culture, then that person has an upside down view of Paul’s Words in 1 Corinthians 9.

Titus was very dear to Paul, was trusted by Paul, and was left by Paul in Crete to appoint elders. The culture of Crete was wicked—detestable, disobedient, liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons, etc. Paul does not tell Titus to embrace the worldly aspects of Cretan culture; nor does the apostle lower the bar of church leadership in order to accommodate the corrupt culture.

Titus’s task was clear. He was not to aid the corrupt culture of the Cretans. In fact, as a young man, he was to be an example of purity, integrity, dignity, reverence, and sound speech—the exact opposite of Cretan culture. Hence, Paul’s address in Titus 2.

The flow of logic in these verses starts with sound doctrine and then moves to outline the behavior that must result. Doctrine is extremely important and some doctrines are vital. But there are likewise certain principles of personal sanctification and holiness that are so vital that we are required to break fellowship with those who violate them (cf. 1 Cor. 5). If someone professes to be a Christian and yet his lifestyle or language is consistently incompatible with godliness, we are not to affiliate ourselves with such people.

Sound doctrine is essential, but right living must go hand-in-hand with sound doctrine. This is the point of Paul’s lists in Titus 2:2ff, stressing those areas of behavior that Titus needed to emphasize with the Cretan believers.

Titus himself is addressed (as part of the young men) in verses 7 and 8. It is in these verses that you have Paul’s instructions to a young man ministering to those in a pagan culture. There is nothing here about Titus adapting his ministry to the lowbrow ministry of Crete. Rather, Titus was to be a model of reverence, purity, and godliness.

On a side note, Phil takes a moment to discuss the context of 1 Corinthians 9:19ff (“being all things to all men”). The context there was not about adopting any and every aspect of a subculture so that would have been considered cool.

Back in Titus 2, dignity is expressly required of the Christians of Crete both young and old. This would have been in direct contrast to the irreverent culture of Crete. As Paul told Titus in 1:13, Titus was to rebuke the culture not embrace it.
 

If a pastor’s ministry is characterized by lewdness, sensuality, and speech which is not sound and which can be condemned, that pastor is not qualified for ministry and should step down. By encouraging Titus to be characterized by sound speech, Paul was telling Titus not to give the world any reason to discredit the gospel.

The pastor who can fill his sermon with filthy words, coarse jesting, and sensuality without a single pang of conscience needs to get out of the ministry. The pulpit is the place where God’s Word needs to be elevated and exalted. It is the last place where holy things should be dragged through the gutter.

The world thinks that everything, no matter how shameful, needs to be brought out and put on display even in mixed audiences. And the last thing that the church should do is think the world has a valid point.

There are two kinds of profanity that every Christian should avoid: filthy talk and irreverence. Scripture is not silent about the things that fit under those two categories. This is not a gray area. Nor is it a complex issue. Our speech is to be seasoned and good for edification. No unwholesome word is to proceed from our lips, no filthiness, silly talk, or coarse jesting which are all out of place.

Ephesians 5:4 really defines (from the negative) what Paul means by sound speech in Titus 2:7–8. The three words in Ephesians 5:4 deal with dirty words, lewd conversation, and crude joking. Scripture emphatically condemns these things.
 

What about Paul’s use of skubalon? That word was not considered taboo in Greek culture. It was a strong word, but it was not the sort of vile expression that some want to make it. Moreover, the use of such harsh expressions was very much the exception in Paul’s ministry not the rule. The other example is in Galatians 5 where Paul turns the Judaizer’s argument on its head. His argument is shocking and harsh, but he did not use any vile or smutty expressions. He was certainly not being crude just to be cool. Nor was this kind of earthy sarcasm the characterization of his ministry.

Strong language and profane language are not the same thing. We need strong language in the pulpit, but profane language has no place there.

What about the Song of Solomon? The book of Song of Solomon elevates the expression of marital love by speaking of it in beautiful and poetic terms. This is the exact opposite of what is happening in the church today, where the beauty and dignity of marital intimacy is being dragged through the gutter. Ecclesiastes 9:10 should never be the butt of a smutty joke.
 

All of us minister in ungodly cultures. You need to be reverent, dignified, sound in doctrine and sound in speech. Those are the qualifications for a true minister and they apply in every subculture. Unclean lips are a disqualifying factor. There is nothing truly prophetic about a trash mouth.

Our lives and our lips must reflect the holiness of God.

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16 Responses to Session 6: Phil Johnson


Posted by Carla Rolfe   |  Friday, Mar 6, 2009   

This was an excellent message and I was blessed to hear it live, even with dial up. Always timely, this message should be in the hands of every youth pastor and be played for their groups. Unfortunately, it's the younger believers among us that seem to need to hear this message most of all, because they're the ones who are being influenced by these so-called "cool" evangelical leaders.

Posted by John Goodell   |  Friday, Mar 6, 2009   

Very important, courageous and clear message bringing God's Word down on this cancer. I am very thankful for it and am praying that we start to hold again to the fact that to be holy is far more important than being "relevant". If we are not holy we won't please God nor really be a blessing to this world. May God help us.

Posted by Tony Zabala   |  Friday, Mar 6, 2009   

Amen! Thank you for this message Phil. Looking forward to listening to this message when it comes out.

Posted by Chris Poe   |  Friday, Mar 6, 2009   

May this message be heard far and wide.

Posted by Dave Norton   |  Saturday, Mar 7, 2009   

Thank you Phil for your boldness and clarity. When we hear a verse read or quoted, and we think of a crude or crass joke - how clear it is to see that this is an obvious irreverant and inappropriate use of the Word of God. What a shame that I didn't see this myself when I've heard Driscoll make this same comment many times previously. Thank you for pointing me toward the truth and the way it needs to be handled at all times.

Posted by Mary Palshan   |  Saturday, Mar 7, 2009   

Thank you, Phil. This is a very timely message. It is clear, as you point out, that even the secular world is turned off by this type of preaching. To me it is nothing more than pornography from the pulpit. There is NO euphemistic way to get around this topic, it is porn from the pulpit.

Eph 4:29 is an admonition to keep our conversations pure and undefiled. This should be critically understood by men who preach the holy word of God. I am so thankful you devoted your time and efforts to bringing a clear message that speaks against this type of filth. Believe me, there are many who agree w/ you whole heartedly.

God will not be mocked!!!!!

God bless you,

Mary Palshan

Posted by david charles   |  Saturday, Mar 7, 2009   

Finally, someone in leadership is willing to step up and say what needs to be said! Mark Driscoll has gotten a pass by too many of our pastors. How he ends up invited to speak at major conferences is beyond me.

Thanks Phil

Posted by Zephaniah Mel   |  Saturday, Mar 7, 2009   

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Posted by Zephaniah Mel   |  Saturday, Mar 7, 2009   

Thank you Phil for standing up and speaking the truth. It was about time that someone confronted Mark Driscoll's filthy language. May God's holiness not be mocked.

Posted by Timothy Messmer   |  Sunday, Mar 8, 2009   

Thanks Phil, for exposing this hypocrite. I have been saddened for several years seeing Pastor Driscoll's church grow rapidly despite the venom being spewed from the pulpit of Mars Hill Church; thus giving them justification and verification for their approach. Sad to see other "evangelical leaders" willing to give Driscoll a pass since they a"gree with most of his theology." Serving near Seattle, we pray for believers within Driscoll's own church to rise up and "call a spade a spade."

Posted by Daniel Comings   |  Sunday, Mar 8, 2009   

Very good message, though to lump Driscoll in with XXX church is a bit of a distraction. I'm afraid that some might view this as more of a personal vendetta against a brother in Christ and miss the excellent point of Phil's message. There is of course the obvious danger in a lack of grace toward an obvious believer in Christ, and a preacher of truth...even with his shortcomings of which it's quite obvious to see (if one watches and keeps up with the whole Driscoll thing) that Driscoll himself is well aware of them.

Posted by Billy Joe   |  Sunday, Mar 8, 2009   

You know I love you Phil. But let's remember one thing, that New York Times article was poorly written. And most of her research is not valid or ispointing out driscoll of the 90's. Since about 5 years ago, then man has really turned his attitude around. I attend the main campus quite often, i have never heard him drop any bad language. Expect for saying one time "Denying Hell, is one hell of a mistake ." Which I don't see anything wrong with. So lets' look at his great turnaround and his wiliness to correct those areas where he struggled.

Posted by Wescott Robinson   |  Sunday, Mar 8, 2009   

I was at Mars Hill Church tonight. Mark preached from 1 Peter 2 on suffering. It was not only a sound, scriptural message that encouraged and instructed any believer, but it was free from any hint of language that would be offensive to anyone. The Gospel, including man's rebellion against God, our inability to save ourselves, the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus was clearly and boldly preached. I am thankful that so many young men and women were there to hear this message and have their attention pointed to Jesus Christ and His work on the cross.

Posted by Scott McIntosh   |  Monday, Mar 9, 2009   

Thank you Daniel Comings, Billy Joe and Wescott Robinson for your posts, well said.

Posted by Jeff Straub   |  Monday, Mar 9, 2009   

Phil:

This was a needed message. Would that it gets a wide hearing. The tragedy is that Mark Driscoll often DOES have something worth hearing. But his methodology tarnishes his message. What is most alarming is the group of prominent evangelicals that use him despite his behavior. But he draws a crowd . . . if that's what is desired.

Jeff Straub

Posted by j jackson   |  Friday, Mar 20, 2009   

Being a Master's Theology grad and lead pastor I must say, "For the love of Jesus, Phil get your rebukes straight!" if you actually read or listened to any of Driscoll's sermons in the last 5 years you would know that he has publicly apologized for using profanity in his sermons. Unlike your assertion, he did not do it to 'reach others at any cost' but did it out of frustration and sinful pride. He was a church planter that started the church when he admittedly was too young in the faith to be a spiritual leader. I don't remember you saying that part. In fact I don't remember you checking your facts before you started this kind of 'our style of preaching is right'. The majority of the time he preaches verse by verse using Greek and makes sure he is accurate in his application.

What if I kept referring to the fact that MacArthur denied the eternal Sonship of Jesus in just about every New Testament Commentary he wrote in the early eighties then changed his stance later? You would tell me to do more research before I preached it from a pulpit to thousands right?

Also, the Bible is FULL of vulgar imagery to make a point, ie. our righteousness being like bloody tampons to God--Is. 64:6, Israel playing the whore with other nations and their lust for them was like a prostitute longing for the large penis' emissions--Ez. 23:20 (wow, when was the last time THAT was preached on!), a wife's breasts like towers bringing peace and protection and pleasure to her husband--Song of Sol 1:13, 4:5, 7:8, 8:10, (how can you not preach on sex straightforwardly from the pulpit going verse by verse thought that book???) or Ezekiel using his own feces to bake bread because of the coming siege--Ez. 4:12...the list goes on. I find strange irony in your statements about 'lewdness' when God Himself used it for making a point. If we preached verse by verse on those passages and made them applicable we would not only be using graphic imagery but shock people as it seems to have done to you. I am not saying use the world's language and imagery at any cost but....God did in some of those passages. Most of our English Bible's have the sanitized versions of some of these verses that the Israelites did not.

While I appreciate your sentiments and desire for holiness and purity in preaching it came across as ignorant to those of us who know if not self righteous...some preachers need to be rebuked for errant theology or immoral lifestyles but quit tearing down brothers that have repented for what you are preaching against!



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